We had our fun in Contrarians Corner, but anyone who has listened to the show for a while knows we hold The Matrix (and only The Matrix, no sequels) in high regard. So expect this Real Talk to be a bit of a lovefest, featuring personal stories while also failing to stop talking about where the franchise went and how it disappointed us. And yes, this movie did really well at the MTV Movie Awards!

It’s not that THE MATRIX wasn’t overrated back in 1999, but it’s more that its brand lost value with every sequel The Wachowskis threw at us over the following years. So it’s impossible to keep a straight face while experiencing Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus’ adventures today - despite what an 83% Tomatometer score may say. Listen to Alex & Julio as they battle nostalgia and roll their eyes at Hollywood’s idea of Artificial Intelligence at the turn of the millennium!

There’s an alternate timeline where Katie Holmes never meets Tom Cruise and then, decades later, her filmography rivals those of her old Dawson’s Creek co-stars - at least in quantity, and probably also in quality. As it is though, we live in the timeline where she’s still mainly known as Joey Potter, despite winning the MTV Movie Award for 1998 Breakthrough Performance. We talk about this, and other DISTURBING BEHAVIOR matters, in this Real Talk segment!

When it comes to the 1998 thriller DISTURBING BEHAVIOR, there’s no behavior more disturbing than that of critics stamping a 35% rotten Tomatometer score on it. Only the MTV Movie Awards recognized the brilliance of Scott Rosenberg’s screenplay, David Nutter’s direction, and, specifically, Katie Holmes’ breakthrough performance. Listen to Alex & Julio celebrate Joey Potter’s escape from The Creek!

Everybody’s gotta start somewhere, and that applies to Curtis Hanson as much as it applies to anyone else. Still, it’s weird to think of the man behind L.A. Confidential and 8 Mile as the director of THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE - a movie that, to be charitable, is not quite on the same league as his other work. But can we at least agree that Rebecca De Mornay deserved her MTV Movie Award? Listen to this Real Talk segment to find out!

If you ever wondered what caused the Great Nanny Unemployment Crisis of the early 90s, wonder no more. THE HAND THAT ROCK THE CRADLE is the worst kind of schlock: schlock that uses shock-value to fool audiences and critics into thinking it’s profound cinema. Nannies were suddenly seen as Public Enemies #1 while Rebecca De Mornay laughed all the way to an MTV Movie Award for Best Villain. Listen to Alex & Julio set the record straight on this unlikely Curtis Hanson film!

Our Fresh Immigrants, Rotten Fascists journey begins here: with a movie that earned Richard Jenkins his first Academy Awards nomination. THE VISITOR is a story set in the midst of post 9/11 paranoia, where a man befriends a couple of refugees whose future is about to be upended. Yes, the question “why is this better than Green Book” is addressed.

Thank you for checking this new project out, whether you are a long-time Contrarians fan or someone who’s just trying to listen to people talking positively about immigrants and negatively about fascism. If you have any recommendations for future entries in the series, let us know!

Much like The Bodyguard, ARMAGEDDON’s primary legacy is its MTV-Movie-Award-Winning song, a little Aerosmith ditty called I Don’t Want To Miss a Thing. What does that say about the movie, and would it be different if Bay’s film didn’t live under the shadow of Independence Day? Could the Criterion Collection be wrong, or are they ahead of the curve on this one? All that and more in this Real Talk segment!

America to the rescue once again! Unfortunately, critics were a little harder to wow only two years after Independence Day had been the talk of the town and ARMAGEDDON got stamped with a 43% rotten Tomatometer score. But are we really so jaded that we can’t appreciate the awesomeness of Bruce Willis drilling into an asteroid? Listed to Alex & Julio defend Michael Bay’s first true masterpiece!

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